عادل حسێن قادر٭
دەروونناس (عادل حسێن)، باس له‌و ئه‌گه‌رانه ده‌كات كه پێویست بوو بۆ كه‌مكردنه‌وه‌ى توندوتیژی خێزانى، به‌ڵام به‌داخه‌وه نه‌ك كه‌مى نه‌كردووه، به‌ڵكو به‌ره‌و زیادبوون و ڕۆشتووه بۆیه به باشمان زانى كه له‌ڕێگه‌ى ئاینده‌سازییه‌وه بپرسین.
ئاینده‌سازى: له‌باوترین جۆرى توندوتیژى له‌خێزاندا كامانه‌ن به‌تایبه‌تى له گه‌رمیان و (كه‌لار) به‌تایبه‌تى؟
عادل حسێن: له‌گه‌رمیان و به‌تایبه‌تى كه‌لار كه لەگه‌شه‌یه‌كى خێرای ئاوه‌دانكردنه‌وه‌و كۆمه‌ڵایه‌تى و دامه‌زراوه‌یدایه، سروشتى كۆمه‌ڵگه‌یشی له گه‌شه‌كردن و گۆڕانى خێرادایه، به‌شێوه‌یه‌ك ئه‌توانین بڵێین له‌هه‌ر 10ساڵ جارێكدا گۆڕانى به‌رچاوو له‌سروشتى مامه‌ڵه‌و ته‌نانه‌ت جۆرى تێڕوانینه‌كان بۆ خێزان به‌ئاسانى به‌دى ده‌كرێت، تاڕادده‌یه‌ك به‌ئاسانى ئه‌م كۆمه‌ڵگه‌ی گه‌رمیانیه بارگاوى ئه‌بێت به‌هه‌ر جۆره ئاڕاسته‌كردنێكى زاڵ له‌ڕووى رۆشنبیریه‌وه ، بۆیه تاڕادده‌یه‌كیش توندوتیژى خێزانى سروشته‌كه‌ى گۆڕاوه لێره كه‌متر ئه‌بینین و ئه‌بیستین توندوتیژى جه‌سته‌یی و سێكسی به‌رامبه‌ر به‌ئافره‌تان بكرێت، به‌راورد به‌وه‌ى كه توندوتیژییه‌كانى زیاتر خۆیان له‌زه‌وتكردنى هه‌ندێك له‌مافه‌كاندا ده‌بیننه‌وه به‌تایبه‌تى له‌ڕووى ماددییه‌وه، وه‌ك فه‌رامۆشكردنى ئافره‌ت له‌به‌شه میراتى یان سه‌ركوتكردنى به‌هێنانه‌وه‌ى هه‌ندێك پاساوی عورفى كه ئه‌مه ئافره‌ته‌و جوان نییه له‌به‌رامبه‌ر براكه‌ى یان هاوسه‌ره‌كه‌ى داواى هه‌ندێك له‌مافه خودا پێداوه‌كانى بكات، بۆیه به‌ناچارى قبوڵى ئه‌كات هه‌ر ئه‌مه وا ده‌كات سه‌ره‌ڕاى ڕازى بوونه‌كه‌ى به‌ناڕاسته‌وخۆیش بێت ناڕه‌زایی ده‌رببڕێت له‌ئاست ئه‌و مافه‌ى كه ڕووگیر ئه‌كرێت له‌وه‌ى كه داواى نه‌كات.
ئاینده‌سازى: دیارترین هۆكاره‌كان چین كه‌به‌رده‌وامى به توندوتیژى ده‌ده‌ن له‌ناو خێزاندا؟
عادل حسێن: هۆكاره‌كان فره‌جۆرن، به‌ڵام له‌ڕووى مێژووه‌وه بۆ دووجۆر دابه‌ش ده‌بن ئه‌وانیش ئه‌وانه‌ى كه قوڵاییه‌كى مێژووییان هه‌یه وه‌ك تێڕوانینی عورفی و ناحاڵى بوون له ڕۆحى ئایین و، فه‌رمانه‌كانى ئایین له‌باره‌ى ماف و ئه‌ركه‌كانه‌وه، هۆكاره نوێیه‌كانیش بریتین له ته‌كنه‌لۆژیاى نوێ و سۆشیه‌ڵ میدیاى نابه‌رپرس و ئاڕاسته‌كراوو نه‌بوونى سانسۆر كه گرفتێكى گه‌وره‌یه، ڕێخۆشكردن و ئاسانكارى بۆ ئه‌و ڕێكخراوانه‌ى كه له‌ژێر ناوى ئازادى تاكه‌كه‌سی و، ژیانى مۆدێرنه وه لاساییكردنه‌وه‌ى تایپی ژیانى خێزانى ڕۆژئاوایی و، به‌رجه‌سته‌كردنى ماف و ئازادى سێكسی له‌ژێر ئه‌و ناوانه كارده‌كه‌ن وه تاڕادده‌یه‌ك ئه‌توانین بڵێین كاریگه‌ریشیان هه‌بووه له‌سه‌ر خێزانه‌كان بۆ ئه‌وه‌ى ئه‌م جۆره له‌توندوتیژى یان شێوازێكى تر له جۆرى توندوتیژى به‌رده‌وام بێت له‌ناو خێزان، كه ئه‌مانه هۆكارێكن بۆ ئه‌وه‌ى خێزان ئه‌گه‌ر له‌به‌ریه‌ك هه‌ڵنه‌وه‌شێت ئه‌ندامه‌كانى له‌یه‌كتر دووربكه‌ونه‌وه‌و به‌شێوه‌یه‌ك هه‌ریه‌كه وابزانێت ماف له‌لاى ئه‌وه، ئه‌م توندوتیژیانه به‌رهه‌م بهێنێت هه‌موو ئه‌مانه هۆگار بوون بۆ دروستكردنى ده‌رئه‌نجامى خراپ كه توندوتیژی خێزانى لێ كه‌وتۆته‌وه.
ئاینده‌سازى: ڕۆڵی ئایین له‌سه‌ر ئه‌م پرسى توندوتیژییه چۆنه‌و پێویسته تاك چۆن مامه‌ڵه‌ى له‌گه‌ڵ بكات؟
عادل حسێن: ئایین وه‌كو خۆى وه ئه‌و ده‌قانه‌ى كه تێیدا هاتووه، له‌ئه‌گه‌رى په‌یڕه‌وكردن و پیاده‌كردنى به‌رقه‌رارى و ئارامى و گونجاوییه‌كى باش له‌خێزاندا دروست ده‌كات و، مامه‌ڵه‌ى تاكه‌كانى ناو خێزان و كۆمه‌ڵگه‌ش به‌رقه‌رارى تێدا به‌دى دێت، كه له‌ئه‌گه‌رى سه‌رهه‌ڵدانى هه‌ر كێشه‌یه‌كدا ئایین چاره‌سه‌رى زۆر گونجاوى داناوه، به‌ڵام بۆچوون و تێگه‌یشتن و ئاڕاسته‌كردنى جۆراوجۆرى كۆمه‌ڵگه له‌ڕووى ئایینیه‌وه، كه دابه‌شبوون بۆ چه‌ند تایپێك له‌ئاڕاسته‌كردنى ئایینى به‌داخه‌وه تاڕادده‌یه‌ك ئه‌م كاریگه‌رییه‌و ئه‌م ڕۆڵه‌ى كاڵكردۆته‌وه، بانگه‌شه‌ى كه‌ناڵه جۆربه‌جۆره‌كانى ڕێكخراوو ڕاگه‌یاندن و ده‌زگاو دامه‌زراوه‌كانى دژه دینیش وێنایه‌كى هه‌ڵه‌ی له‌هه‌ندێك بابه‌تى تایبه‌ت به‌م پرسه وروژاندووه یان ڕژاندۆته ناو كۆمه‌ڵگاوه، ئه‌مه بێگومان كاریگه‌ریشی هه‌بووه وه بێ كاریگه‌ریش نه‌بووه، به‌ڵام ئێستاش ئایین باشترین هۆكاره بۆ سه‌قامگیرى خێزانى، چونكه ڕاسته‌وخۆ دڵ و ده‌روون و مێشكى تاك ئه‌دوێنێ، باڵاترین به‌هاى ڕۆحییه مرۆڤ پێوه‌ى پابه‌نده به‌پێچه‌وانه‌وه یاسا ده‌ستكرده‌كان و كامێره‌كانى چاودێرى كه ناتوانن هه‌موو كات و له‌هه‌موو شوێنێك بەڕەستی هاوڵاتى و خێزانه‌كان بكه‌ن، بۆیه له‌هه‌ر چركه‌ساتێك له غیاب یان خۆشاردنه‌وه‌ى هاوڵاتى تاك له‌م یاسا ده‌ستكردانه و، ئه‌و كامێرانه‌ى كه‌دانراون بۆ چاودێریكردن ئه‌وا ده‌رفه‌تێكى بۆ ئه‌ڕه‌خسێت بۆ ئه‌نجامدانى توندوتیژى له‌كاتێكدا كه ئایین وجودى نه‌بوو له ڕۆحى هه‌ر تاكێكدا له‌بیروبۆچوونى هه‌ر تاكێكدا ئه‌وا ئه‌م توندوتیژیانه سه‌ر ئه‌كێشێت بۆ كوشتنیش به‌داخه‌وه، ئه‌گه‌ر شایه‌تحاڵێك نه‌مێنێ دواتر به‌یاسا ئه‌و كه‌سه‌ى كه پێی تاوانبار بكرێت.
ئاینده‌سازى: ئایا ڕێكخراوو دام و ده‌زگا حكومیه‌كان كه چ ڕۆڵێكیان هه‌بووه له‌كه‌مكردنه‌وه‌ى توندوتیژى له‌خێزاندا؟
عادل حسێن: ئه‌سڵ له دروستبوونى رڕێكخراوو دام و ده‌زگاكانى تایبه‌ت به‌م پرسه پێدانى هۆشیارى دروسته به‌تاك و خێزان، چاره‌سه‌ركردنى ئه‌و كه‌یسانه‌شه كه دێته به‌رده‌ستیان به ڕێگه‌یه‌كى زانستیانه له‌پێناوى پاراستنى تۆكمه‌یی خێزان، دروستكردنى هه‌ماهه‌نگى و ته‌بایی له‌نێوان ژن و مێرددا و، له‌نێوان تاكه‌كانى خێزانداو وه ئاشناكردنیانه به مافه‌كانیان و ئه‌ركه‌كانیان و ، سنوره‌كانیشیان گه‌ر به‌م ئاڕاسته‌یه كار كرابێت پێویسته ئه‌نجامه‌كانیش پێمان بڵێن ڕێژه‌و ژماره‌ى توندوتیژییه‌كانى ناو خێزان و، كوشتنه‌كان و خۆكوشتنه‌كان و جیابوونه‌وه‌كان و له‌به‌ریه‌ك هه‌ڵوه‌شاندنه‌وه‌كانى خێزان كه‌میكردووه، به‌ڵام به‌داخه‌وه ئه‌وه‌ى ئێمه ده‌یبینین وا ده‌زانم كه ئه‌نجامه‌كان پێچه‌وانه‌ن له‌برى یه‌كخستنى سه‌نگه‌ره‌كانى ژن و پیاو سه‌نگه‌ره‌كان زیادى كردووه، یان لانى كه‌م به‌هانه‌ى زۆریان دروستكردووه بۆئه‌وه‌ى سه‌نگه‌ره‌كانى دژ له‌لایه‌ن پیاوو ژنه‌وه زۆرتر بێت.
ئاینده‌سازى: ئایا داب و نه‌ریتى كۆمه‌ڵایه‌تى كه له‌گه‌رمیاندا چ په‌یوه‌ندییه‌ك هه‌یه له‌نێوان عورف و عاده‌ت و، توندوتیژى به‌رامبه‌ر به ئافره‌ت له‌خێزاندا؟
عادل حسێن: له‌ڕاستیدا داب و نه‌ریته كۆمه‌ڵایه‌تیه‌كان له‌گه‌رمیاندا به‌تایبه‌تى لادێ نشینه‌كان زیات رزاڵه به‌هۆى پێویستى خێزانه‌كان به‌تواناو هێزو بازوى كوڕ بۆ پاڵپشتیکردنى باوكه‌كان له كارو ئه‌ركه‌كانیاندا واى كردبوو كه گرنگى زیاتر به‌نێرینه بدرێت له‌خێزانه‌كاندا، به‌تایبه‌تى له‌ساڵه‌كانى پێش ڕاپه‌ڕین كه ئه‌و تێڕوانینه تا ئێستاش ئاسه‌واره‌كانى هه‌ر ماوه تا ئێستاش له‌نێو هه‌ندێ بنه‌ماڵه ده‌بێت كچم مێرد به ئامۆزاو پورزاو خاڵۆزاى خۆى بكات، ئیتر هه‌ندێك جار به‌ویست و حه‌زى كچه‌كه‌ش نیه له‌رڕاستیدا یان له‌كاتى ئاشكرابوونى په‌یوه‌ندى نێوان كچ و كوڕ كه زۆرجار كچ قوربانیه بێگومان كاتێك شتێكى له‌و جۆره ڕوو ده‌دات هه‌ردوو ڕه‌گه‌ز وه‌ك یه‌ك تاوانبارن، به‌ڵام سه‌ره‌ڕاى ئه‌مانه‌ش نموونه‌ى جوان هه‌یه له‌چاره‌سه‌ركردنى گرفته‌كاندا له گه‌رمیان بۆ نموونه: كه وه‌ك نموونه‌ى باڵا باس ده‌كرێت له گه‌رمیاندا كه ڕووبه‌ڕووی ئافره‌ت بۆته‌وه به‌جوانترین شێوه كه‌رامه‌ت و ژیان و مافه‌كانى ئافره‌ت پارێزراوه، ئه‌و كێشانه‌ى كه ڕووبه‌ڕوویان بۆته‌وه به‌شێوه‌یه‌كى جوان چاره‌سه‌ركراوه هیچ شتێكیش به‌رامبه‌ر به ژنه‌كه نه‌كراوه یان به‌شێوه‌یه‌ك له شێوه‌كان چاره‌سه‌ركراوه كه هه‌مووى ئه‌وانه‌ى كه وتمان كه‌رامه‌تى هه‌م ژیانى هه‌م مافه‌كانى تێدا پارێزراوه ئه‌مه هه‌ر عورف و عاده‌ت و كۆمه‌ڵایه‌تى كۆنه كه شتی باشی تێدا بووه بۆیه ئه‌توانین بڵێین په‌یوه‌ندییه‌كه دوو دیوه؛ هه‌م به‌دیوى سلبی هه‌م دیوی ئیجابی هه‌یه. په‌یوه‌ندى نێوان عورف و عاده‌ت و توندوتیژى به‌رامبه‌ر ژن و ئافره‌ت هه‌م له‌ڕوویه‌كه‌وه هه‌ندێك كێشه‌ى پێ چاره‌سه‌ركراوه زۆر به‌شێوه‌یه‌كى دانایانه هه‌ندێك جاریش گه‌شتۆته تا ڕادده‌ى كوشتنى ئافره‌ته‌كه زۆرجاریش كارى شێڵته‌ره‌كان و ڕێكخراوه‌كانى پاراستنى مافى ژنان و، عورف و عاده‌تى كۆمه‌ڵایه‌تى به‌ریه‌ك كه‌وتوون، ئه‌نجامى خراپیشی لێ كه‌وتۆته‌وه بەداخەوە كه‌ئه‌وه‌ش ده‌رخه‌رى ناشاره‌زایی و كارى نازانستیانه‌ى شێڵته‌ره‌كان و خێزانه‌كانیش بووه، له‌ڕاستیدا نه‌یانتوانیوه كێشه‌كه چاره‌سه‌ر بكه بۆنموونه جاری وا هه‌بووه كچێك كێشه‌یه‌كى هه‌بووه له‌ماڵى خۆیان په‌یوه‌ندییه‌ك شتێكى هه‌بووه به‌هۆى ئه‌و ئیدعایانه‌ى پێشتر كراوه له‌لایه‌ن ڕێكخراوو شێڵته‌ره‌كانه‌وه كه ئه‌وان داڵده‌ى ئافره‌تى لێقه‌وماوو په‌ناهه‌نده‌ى خه‌ڵكى زوڵم لێكراوو سته‌م لێكراوه‌بن، په‌ناى بردۆته به‌ر ئه‌و شێڵته‌رانه، به‌ڵام ئه‌و شێڵته‌رانه نه‌یان توانیوه كه نه‌مافه‌كانى دابین بكه‌ن هه‌م به‌باشی بیگرنه خۆیان بۆیه دواتر ئه‌م ئافره‌ته له شێڵته‌ره‌كه نه‌ماوه‌ته‌وه ئیتر جارێكیتر كه‌وتۆته‌وه ناو خێزانه‌كه‌ى خۆى له‌ئه‌نجامدا دواى ماوه‌یه‌كیش بووبێت كوشتوویانه له‌سه‌ر ئه‌وه‌ى ئه‌م ئافره‌ته هه‌ڵه‌یه‌كى كردووه له‌ناو خێزانه‌كه‌ى خۆیدا كه ئه‌توانرا به‌شێوه‌یه‌ك له‌شێوه‌كان چاره‌سه‌ر بكرێت، به‌ڵام به‌هۆى ئه‌وه‌ى كه ئه‌م بانگه‌شه‌یه هه‌بووه بۆ پاراستنى مافى په‌ناى بردۆته به‌ر یه‌كێك له‌و شێڵته‌رانه یان ئه‌و ڕێكخراوانه كه ئه‌وانیش به‌باشی داڵده‌یان نه‌داوه، ته‌نانه‌ت هانیش دراوه كه سكاڵا تۆمار بكات له‌سه‌ر باوكى دواتر كه ئه‌م ئافره‌ته نامێنێته‌وه له شێڵته‌ره‌كه یان ڕێكخراوه‌كه‌و جارێكى تر ئه‌گه‌ڕێته‌وه ناو خێزانه‌كه‌ى ئه‌وا ئه‌م باوكه یان ئه‌م برایه به‌پێى عورف و عاده‌تى كۆمه‌ڵایه‌تیان وابووه قبوڵى ئه‌وه ناكات كه كچه‌كه‌یان هه‌ڵه بكات یان هه‌ڵ بێت له‌ده‌ستى هه‌م شكاتى لێ بكات و سكاڵاى له‌سه‌ر تۆمار بكات، بۆیه به‌داخه‌وه گه‌شتۆته ڕادده‌ى كوشتن له‌دواى ئه‌وه.
ئاینده‌سازى: چاره‌سه‌ر بۆ نه‌هێشتنى توندوتیژى به‌رامبه‌ر به‌ژنان چین؟
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